Q&A about Percy Harvin’s time in Seattle

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SEATTLE, WA - NOVEMBER 17:  Wide receiver Percy Harvin #11 of the Seattle Seahawks makes a catch against cornerback Chris Cook #20 of the Minnesota Vikings at CenturyLink Field on November 17, 2013 in Seattle, Washington.  (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)
SEATTLE, WA – NOVEMBER 17: Wide receiver Percy Harvin #11 of the Seattle Seahawks makes a catch against cornerback Chris Cook #20 of the Minnesota Vikings at CenturyLink Field on November 17, 2013 in Seattle, Washington. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)
Percy Harvin is a Buffalo Bill and is on his 4th team since the end of the 2012 season. I’m hoping to get a Vikings blogger at some point to talk about his time in Minnesota, but in the meantime we have Matthew Heuett -writer for HawkBlogger- to dish the dirt on Harvin’s time in the Pacific Northwest.

1) What were the pros and cons to Harvin’s game?

Percy Harvin is an athletic freak of nature, the sort of rare physical specimen that a general manager would give their eyeteeth to draft.  He’s impossibly fast, he has an uncanny ability to see the entire field, and he makes impossible catches look routine.  He also runs with the short, choppy steps of a running back rather than a wide receiver’s long-legged stride, so he can make a lot of guys miss when he gets the ball in space, and he’s fantastic at maximizing his yardage on every touch.  Unfortunately, he’s also incredibly fragile and prone to lingering injuries that keep him out of action for weeks at a time.  So yeah, Harvin is a phenomenal weapon to have on offense, but you have to limit his snaps per game if you want him to stay healthy enough to be available the entire season.  He’s also got one other glaring problem, which brings me to your next question.

2) Why didn’t it work out in Seattle for him?

Harvin didn’t work out in Seattle because he was a major locker room cancer.  After he was traded to New York, word began to filter out from Seattle that he has serious anger problems that resulted in fistfights with a few of his Seahawks teammates during the 2013 season, and during the 2014 season he apparently divided the locker room into pro- and anti-Harvin camps by accusing Russell Wilson of not being black enough, whatever the hell that means.  The last straw was the week six game against Dallas, when Harvin straight up refused to go back into the game during the fourth quarter while the Hawks were trying to mount a last minute comeback — a few days later, he was on a plane headed for New York.

3) I know he only played a handful of games with you guys, but were you disappointed you guys dealt him?

My first reaction was disappointment, sure, but that went away pretty quickly after all the ugly stories about his behind-the-scenes behavior started to come to light.  Besides, his presence was not having a positive effect on the offense.  Seattle’s offense has been at its best the past few years when it relies on a barrage of battering-ram runs punctuated by sheer ludicrous magic from Wilson.  A big part of the reason for the team’s early season slump was that all their attempts to work Harvin into the game plan split their offensive focus and took a lot of touches away from Marshawn Lynch.  Granted, all those jet sweeps and so forth worked well against Green Bay in week one, but after that they swiftly began to lose their effectiveness, partly because defenses knew what to watch for and partly because executing on plays that require precision timing just isn’t a strength of this offense — they want to move the ball by punching you in the mouth repeatedly, not by finessing it down the field.  Once Harvin was gone, they went back to relying heavily on their bread-and-butter Beast Mode tactics and the wins began to pile up once more.

Today, the only regret I have about the whole affair is all the draft picks they gave up to acquire him (a 1st rounder in 2014 and a 3rd in 2015), but I can’t fault Pete Carroll and John Schneider for taking a gamble on a troubled player with tons of talent — a similar gamble worked out pretty well for them a few years earlier when they acquired Lynch from the Bills (albeit at a much lower cost).

4) What does he bring to the table special teams wise?
To my knowledge he’s never been used as a punt returner in the NFL, so I can’t speak to his ability there, but the man has some serious chops as a kickoff returner.  2014 was a down year for him with just a 24.3 yard average on his returns, but his career average is 27.3 — hell, If you look a little closer, you’ll notice that his best kickoff return season averages actually come after the rule change in 2011 that moved kickoffs back to the 30 yard line, so that hasn’t been much of a factor.  As long as he has some halfway decent blocking ahead of him, he’s always a threat to pull a Devin Hester and take one for a long gain.  With his trouble staying healthy I don’t think you’d want to use him on every single kickoff, but used sparingly he could provide a spark with some big returns when your team desperately needs it.

5) What sort of routes would you want Harvin running if you were the OC?

Anything that gives him a chance to get the ball in space with some room to maneuver like jet sweeps and shallow crossers, or anything that takes full advantage of his speed and quickness like slant & gos.  Randall Cobb plays in a roughly similar fashion, so if a particular route concept is working for him in Green Bay I’d try to find a way to incorporate it into my offense for Harvin.  He doesn’t have the jumping ability of a Larry Fitzgerald, so I wouldn’t want my QB to just toss a ball up for grabs in his direction and hope for the best, nor would I want him exposed to a big hit by making him stop and jump for a pass in the middle of the field where the linebackers roam.  I’d want to line him up all over the place (he’s just as effective from the backfield as he is flexed out wide), and I’d also employ him judiciously as a decoy to keep the defense guessing (run a jet sweep fake to draw in the defense and throw it over their heads to Sammy Watkins, for example).
6) Anything else you’d like to add?

Pete Carroll is a master motivator, and if he couldn’t find a way to make Harvin work as part of his team I have to wonder if anyone ever will.  I don’t know what Harvin’s behavior was like in New York, but if he was able to sow discord in Seattle by badmouthing a magician like Wilson I can only imagine what kind of damage he could have done in the Jets’ locker room with Geno Smith as ammunition.  That said, if Rex Ryan was willing to sign him to the Bills’ roster after dealing with him for most of the 2014 season with the Jets then perhaps he was able to find a way to succeed where Carroll failed.  I just hope for your sake that he doesn’t snap and beat the crap out of Watkins or LeSean McCoy.
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