The Hip Hop Manifesto: A Brief Debate On The Merits of Yeezus

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There's a friend of mine who was raised on old school hip hop (it wasn't old school at the time, actually, it was new school) like myself.  Over the past few years I've always tried to tip him off to cool new hip hop that is coming over the horizon that I've stumbled across (Odd Future, Danny Brown, Action Bronson, etc.) like any middle-aged, balding, white, middle class father of two worth his weight in gold should do.  So when Yeezus dropped, and I, a staunch anti-Kanye West guy, became enchanted by it (instant classic!), I told him to check it out.  Which brought on the following debate:

Trif Pap:

I usually respect your opinions on things, however Kanye's album is HORRIBLE.

Lyrics

Although clever, his flow sometimes lacks and has too many similes. 
 
Beats

Absolutely horrible.  Ever try a pizza with every topping on it?  Sounds like it would be great but it's not.  He's doing too much, and keeping it simple is the hip hop way.  Produced almost like Diddy.  Use to be good with drum and base now too complex with orchestra-like sh*t. 
 
Only exception is 'Bound 2'.  Very solid track.  
 
Jay Z's album is quite impressive.  
 
Me:

Yeezus is obvious just beyond you, and that's ok.  You stick to your simple, uncreative, fast food Jay Z.


Him:

Obviously.


Me:

Kanye is a chef; Jay Z a cook.  Kanye makes art; Jay Z makes product.

But Mr. Carter's latest album is pretty good… for him.

 
Him:

Kanye makes pizza with all toppings. All you can eat rap. 
 

Me:
 
That's total BS.  He's pushing rap to new areas.  Jay Z just bites everyone else's style and does nothing creative.
 
By the way – have you ever had this 'pizza with all the toppings' that you speak of?
 

Him:
 
Yes I have. It's not good. He really is following Diddy. Both very good at beginning of their careers and became obsessed with adding too many new sounds at once.
 
 
Conclusion on Yeezus:
 
Me: Instant classic – will go down as groundbreaking.
 
Trifon Pappas: Pizza with all the toppings (which apparently is gross).
 
 
 

 

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