article<\/a> and shed some light on his decision behind playing another year.<\/strong><\/p>\n\u201cI have a lot of respect for Randy and Pierre \u2026 I think, if it was up to them, I\u2019d be back,\u201d said the right-winger who turns 38 on Saturday. \u201cBut they kind of put it in the coach\u2019s hands and that had a lot to do with it. For whatever reason, Guy never really gave me the chance to show I can play.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\nIt certainly reads like Neil is blaming Boucher for the Senators\u2019 decision to move on. Keep in mind, Pierre Dorion acquired some forwards at the behest of his coach to address and bolster the team\u2019s bottom-six depth. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nBut at the same time, Neil needs to take responsibility for his season. I get that he\u2019s got a chip on his shoulder and will be out to prove everyone wrong because he\u2019s an unemployed hockey player who\u2019s expressing self-confidence in hopes that he can land another gig. It get that. But there\u2019s also the fact that he\u2019s a soon-to-be 38-year old who was an anchor each and every time he stepped on the ice. I don\u2019t think it was Guy Boucher\u2019s fault that Neil is coming off a season in which he set career lows in goals and points.<\/strong><\/p>\nOn how it became clear throughout the year that Neil was no longer a fit in Guy Boucher\u2019s system\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cYeah, I think the fit changes for a player, but that doesn\u2019t mean that Chris didn\u2019t help us. I think you look back at the Rangers series, if not for Chris Neil I\u2019m not sure we win that series. Chris still feels that he can probably contribute on higher level than we were expected to provide for him and things change. Things change as far as ice time and role, but that\u2019s always in the coach\u2019s hand. And people always think that the coach probably has a bigger say on first liners than fourth liners, but I think it\u2019s the opposite way around. Coaches really probably have a bigger say personnel-wise when it comes to your role players than probably your first line guys.\u201d<\/p>\n
That the coach had that much of a say in the personnel decisions probably irked Neil. It essentially cost him a spot as a regular in the lineup. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn what the status of contract negotiations are with impending UFA Chris Kelly\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cWe told Chris that he wouldn\u2019t be offered a contract on July 1st<\/sup> or beforehand. I think Chris was a bit disappointed with his play this year. He felt he could have given more, but coming off a broken leg and everything that he\u2019s gone through we told Chris it was the complete opposite. I think what Chris brought in our dressing room as far as culture change, work ethic, accountability amongst the players, his ability to play the PK were all things that we were very happy with. But as things evolve, he still wants to play and we haven\u2019t completely turned the page because we don\u2019t know exactly what\u2019s going to happen with Derick Brassard. I have a lot of respect for Chris Kelly as a human being and as a hockey player, he\u2019s someone who knows the game and has gone through battles. We still left the door open and we signed him a bit later in the summer last year and that could be the same case this year.\u201d<\/p>\nI\u2019d like to believe the Senators could do better than Chris Kelly on the open market. If they can\u2019t, that\u2019d be depressing. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn the status of the other impending UFAs\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cI\u2019ve had a conversation with every one of them. I\u2019ve had conversations with Mike Condon. I\u2019ve had conversations with Mike Condon\u2019s agent. That\u2019s progressing much better than originally intended. Tom Pyatt I\u2019ve had conversations with his agent, so we\u2019ve had conversations with Viktor Stalberg\u2019s agent and conversations with Tommy Wingels\u2019 agent. At least they\u2019re all conversations. I think without disputing any secrets, we\u2019ve made offers. They seem to be hesitant and I think I know why, expansion because they\u2019ve all been told that they wouldn\u2019t be protected. As I gave breaking news upstairs, we will protect Erik Karlsson in expansion. (We\u2019re protecting) two guys now: (Craig) Anderson and Erik Karlsson. So we\u2019re just waiting. I\u2019m not afraid to make deals, but I think a lot of people forget that people like playing in Ottawa and with the fact of signing and being exposed, they don\u2019t like that as much so it\u2019s their choice to wait. And maybe they don\u2019t want to sign with us and are just waiting for a better offer. If July 1st<\/sup> comes around and they haven\u2019t signed, maybe they go somewhere else.\u201d<\/p>\nJust a week ago, Dorion was talking about there not being much progress made on the Condon front, but realistically, the Senators do not need to bend over backwards to bring any of these players back into the fold. The last thing a club with a strict budget should do is overspend on third and fourth line players simply because they have familiarity with them. The Senators, like every team, need to get the most bang for the buck and Dorion needs to keep an open mind and explore all of the options on the market.<\/strong><\/p>\nOn the RFAs being put on the backburner\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cUh, no. Obviously talks with Don Meehan on (Ryan) Dzingel are preliminary. We\u2019re talking term more now than dollars and then we\u2019ll get to dollars. And Pageau, again I spoke about that upstairs, but Craig (Oster) and did Mika Zibanejad and Mark Stone (contracts) in Vegas two years ago, so I\u2019ve got a lot of faith that Craig and I will get a few minutes and we\u2019ll sit down Pageau. I said (to Pageau), \u2018You can\u2019t ruin my summer,\u2019 and he said, \u2018I won\u2019t.\u2019 We\u2019ll see what happens, but both are (arbitration) cases so in the worst-case scenario they\u2019re both one-year deals and we go through the same process again next year.\u201d<\/p>\n
If I had to bet on Pageau\u2019s future, I\u2019m guessing a three-year deal that pays him $7.2-million. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn there being any preference when it comes to term with Pageau\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cHe\u2019s a UFA in three years, so if you get into a fourth year obviously the money is going to be significantly more. That\u2019s just the trend if you\u2019re looking at contracts, but we\u2019re open to one to seven or eight (years). We\u2019re always open. I think you\u2019ve always got to explore all options. Everything you do, you\u2019ve got to explore all options.\u201d<\/p>\n
Due diligence, it\u2019s a beautiful thing. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn having no problem committing term to Pageau\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cI have personal affections for Jean-Gabriel Pageau. He\u2019s probably one of my favourite players on the team. I think the way he performs and the way he plays the game, I think is something that our players can all aspire to. But at the same time, we always have to be fiscally responsible, not because you like someone that you\u2019re going to give him more money.\u201d<\/p>\n
I like Pageau too, but the fact that the Senators have had a difficult time finding possession-driving wingers or offensively talented players has posed problems for Pageau\u2019s even strength production. Without that production, it\u2019s hard to justify a big pay day even if Pageau\u2019s developed the label or reputation as a shutdown centre.<\/strong><\/p>\nOn concerns about the goalie position moving forward\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cNo, not at all. We\u2019ve got Andrew Hammond, we\u2019ve got Craig Anderson, we\u2019re going to qualify Chris Driedger and we\u2019ve signed Marcus Hogberg. (I\u2019m) not at all worried. There are other things that worry me way more than our goaltending position. No, as long we\u2019ve got Craig Anderson and hopefully we can find a way to sign Mike Condon, that\u2019s the direction we\u2019re going to go to. If we can\u2019t sign Mike Condon, I feel confident that Andrew Hammond can play for us. He never felt comfortable from about the first game he played last year because of the hip and he\u2019s back healthy. He\u2019s ahead of schedule and if that\u2019s who are goaltending tandem is \u2013 Anderson and Condon or Anderson and Hammond \u2013 I feel comfortable.\u201d<\/p>\n
It was never addressed, but I\u2019d love to know whether Dorion would consider buying out Andrew Hammond\u2019s final season provided that Condon signs an extension with the club. Considering his health, Hammond\u2019s probably not going anywhere and like Dorion mentioned, the Senators are going to want to give as many games to Hogberg and Driedger as they can. On the other hand, maybe Hammond is fully healthy and can placate concerns about losing Condon as a free agent. We already know that Senators goaltending coach Pierre Groulx staunchly supported acquiring Condon, but I have a hard time believing the Senators will be happy to pay Hammond and Condon\u2019s freight.<\/strong><\/p>\nOn whether he\u2019ll explore a contract extension with Craig Anderson\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cI can tell you my thoughts right now if you\u2019re ready to pay the fine.\u201d<\/p>\n
This is Dorion\u2019s go-to joke right now. Dorion\u2019s dad humour is reaching epic levels. The jokes come so often now that I keep hoping that TSN 1200<\/em>\u2019s producers will pipe in fake crowd laughter so his segments come off as early 90\u2019s or late 80\u2019s TV sitcoms. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn whether there\u2019s any chance the Senators will commit to protecting seven forwards, three defencemen and a goalie or eight skaters and a goalie\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cWe\u2019re looking at all of our options. We\u2019re looking at 7-3-1 and looking at 8-1 and we\u2019re looking at multiple options. You can\u2019t show your hand too much. We\u2019ve had a lot of dialogue between our counterparts. I think I counted in the first three days this, (I\u2019ve talked to 23 general managers). So there\u2019s a lot of discussion because everyone wants to know what you\u2019re doing. But at the same time, Las Vegas paid a lot of money to come into this league. We\u2019re going to lose someone. I\u2019m not sure I\u2019m going to be forced into doing a deal and losing two assets. Take one asset. That\u2019s okay, that is your right and as an organization, we have to accept that. Now at the same time, there are always things that you have to look at. What is the second asset to lose (when you lose the first asset)? In your discussions, okay, \u2018You don\u2019t take this guy, but you\u2019ll have to take someone else,\u2019 and you\u2019ve got to give them something so that\u2019s giving the price for three assets. So at the same time, I\u2019m not saying that we\u2019re going to stay status quo, but if we don\u2019t do anything until Saturday at 3:00 (pm ET) and submit our list by 5:00, I feel more than comfortable with this team. I feel more than comfortable that we\u2019ve taken a step in the right direction. I feel more than comfortable that if we lose a defenceman or a forward, we\u2019ve got a lot of depth. Especially on defence we\u2019ve got a lot of depth \u2013 we\u2019ve got (Thomas) Chabot coming up; we\u2019ve got (Ben) Harpur who played in the playoffs and played great; Shean Donovan and Randy Lee swear to me that (Christian) Jaros is closer than we think to the NHL; and (Andreas) Englund had a great first half, but he slowed down in the second half. But, that\u2019s understandable with the way playing so many games coming over from Europe and we had seven guys who almost played for us on a regular basis last year, so defence is really the last thing I\u2019m worried about. I\u2019m not worried about goaltending and I\u2019m not worried about defence, so maybe that tells you where I\u2019m worried about.\u201d<\/p>\n
The issue shouldn\u2019t be the fear of losing players. Teams always lose players. It\u2019s all about how you replace players and get the most bang for your buck. Ottawa shouldn\u2019t be afraid to lose two players from his blue line simply because it creates a hole. It\u2019s not like Ottawa\u2019s blue line was a strength last season. If you can find replacement level (or ideally better) talent at a lower cost, it allows the Senators to address and fill different holes on the roster. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn whether calls picked up after it was reported that Dion Phaneuf would not waive his NMC\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cNo, it was about the same. I had a lot of calls before and I had a lot of calls this week, so\u2026 I\u2019ve had a lot of calls this week and it\u2019s been a very active week and it\u2019s been busy. It\u2019s been interesting.\u201d<\/p>\n
Dorion\u2019s no stranger to making a splash, so I hope that\u2019s the case over the next week.<\/strong><\/p>\nOn no-trade clauses and how often players change those lists\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cYou\u2019re allowed to change them once a year. For the most part, it depends. Some teams they require a list of (teams) and in Dion\u2019s case, it\u2019s 12 teams that you will accept to be traded to and that was an inherited contract from Toronto. In Ottawa, what we do \u2013 except for Erik Karlsson \u2013 is give us a list of 10 teams that when you\u2019re a pending UFA that you will accept or 10 teams that you do not want to be traded to. And that\u2019s really what our standard is. A guy like Marc Methot has that and a guy like Zack Smith is going to come and have one. Who else have we done in the last few years that\u2019s a UFA? We don\u2019t give it to goalies. Clarke (MacArthur) has it. It\u2019s always been that way and it won\u2019t change, but a lot of times, those players have earned it. Those players have earned it. They\u2019ve had a career and sometimes they\u2019ll give up some money to have a certain clause like that and there\u2019s no problem. We always tell players, \u2018When you\u2019re going to sign on the dotted line, make sure you\u2019re happy and we\u2019re happy.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n
I didn\u2019t know about the Senators\u2019 policy on movement clauses to goalies, it\u2019s a good one to adhere to. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn how much trade activity he expects league-wide before Saturday\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cIt\u2019s like every other thing, I think there\u2019s more hype around all the trades and everything that was going to happen. Everyone thought that Monday at 9:00 am that Vegas would announce 17 trades, so I think there\u2019s still a lot of discussions going on but at the same time, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s going to come to fruition as far as how many trades are going to happen.\u201d<\/p>\n
I hope he\u2019s wrong. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn how much trade interest there is for Marc Methot, Cody Ceci and Dion Phaneuf\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cGuys are calling on all three, but that doesn\u2019t mean that any one of the three will get traded because you have to think, \u2018I trade then what am I getting back?\u2019 Because of expansion, where does that come into play? If I take a forward then I have to leave someone else exposed and then you\u2019re risking the chance of losing two assets and that\u2019s where you say to yourself, \u2018What is the best thing for the organization? What is going to help the Ottawa Senators field the best team next year \u2013 losing one asset or two assets? Are the two assets that you\u2019re going to lose more important than the one asset that you\u2019re going to lose?\u2019 So that\u2019s where it comes into play and I know people think I\u2019m going to be crazy with this statement, but we have to think about the cap situation moving forward. We have to think about in a few years that we have guys that are going to be UFAs after this following year. The one more year after that (with Karlsson\u2019s impending UFA status) is huge. And then you look at a guy like Mark Stone, he\u2019s in the last year of a contract \u2013 his last year as an RFA and then possibly a UFA. So that\u2019s where you have to think, \u2018What do we have to do to also look at what we can do to field the best team next year? But at the same time, to field the best team within two, three or four years.\u201d<\/p>\n
It\u2019s interesting to hear the organization is exercising caution with its contracts now that expansion is upon us. Considering how the bulk of Ottawa\u2019s young core has an expiring first or second contract, the pressure on Dorion to get his players not only under contract but to manageable deals that allow his team to be competitive moving forward is going to be difficult thanks to the complications created by the burdensome Ryan and Phaneuf deals.<\/p>\n
We\u2019ve already seen an uptick in the volume of Phaneuf trade chatter since his unwillingness to waive his NMC was reported earlier this week. Whether that\u2019s a reflection of Ottawa\u2019s aggressiveness in trying to get out from his deal remains to be seen, but it would hardly be a surprise to see Ottawa do everything within their power to get out from under these two contracts. Between the playoff run and the better than anticipated play during this run, if there\u2019s ever an offseason to move either player, now is the time. <\/strong><\/p>\nOn having discussions and trying to find the balance between making deals and worrying about losing too many assets\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cBetween our group, I\u2019ll phone the coach and talk to him. \u2018Do you like this guy? Do you not like this guy?\u2019 We\u2019ll talk amongst our management group and at the end of the day, I know the responsibility falls on my shoulders but there\u2019s a lot of internal discussions on what other teams are doing too. The reason why you do mock drafts is to say who can be available. Now, teams could be in a similar situation: teams might want to lose a guy that we think they don\u2019t want to lose and we\u2019ll all find that out Saturday. The lists have to be in by 5:00 (pm ET), so you figure the league goes through it so probably not until 9:00 or 10:00 is when we\u2019ll get the lists and the league just might make them public on Sunday. And the other thing is, even if we were to make a deal with Las Vegas, the kibosh has been put on us. We had a conference call Tuesday and I respect the league\u2019s position on that. Again, Vegas paid a lot of money. They want to make a splash on Wednesday night in Last Vegas at the award show when they\u2019re going to announce their expansion team. The only people I feel bad about, sometimes if you have got a deal in place, you can\u2019t even tell the player. I have a lot of respect for the players. This league is a lot about the players and what they achieve and that is a bit difficult, but at the same time, I think the league is going about it the right way and so is Vegas.\u201d<\/p>\n
That Dorion is empathetic towards the players in this situation is nice, but I\u2019m just hoping this is foreshadowing a few unexpected trades. With the rumours and anticipation of a ton of trades, it\u2019s an exciting time of year.<\/strong><\/p>\nOn players finding out next week when everyone else does that they\u2019ve been selected in the expansion draft\u2026<\/p>\n
\u201cI think Las Vegas has to submit their list at 10:00 am ET, so I think the reason for that is that they might try and fly some guys in. And let\u2019s say you\u2019re from the east coast, you can gain time going to Vegas. I remember talking to Bobby Ryan and he found out through someone else that he got traded here. Sometimes because there\u2019s league protocols, until a trade call is made, you can\u2019t tell the player. Now you\u2019re watching TV and the trade deadline and you see that they\u2019ve announced a trade and we haven\u2019t even made the trade call. I haven\u2019t even told the player and now the player is mad at you, but you\u2019re just following league rules. One person is big on league rules: I follow them to the letter.\u201d<\/p>\n
In other words: don\u2019t expect any leaks out of Ottawa beyond news that Dion has resubmitted his list of teams that he cannot be traded to. <\/strong><\/p>\n\nhttp:\/\/proxy.autopod.ca\/download\/podcasts\/chum\/179\/54394\/pierre%20dorion.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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